are the most frequently asked questions
we get. If you have additional questions,
please feel free to Contact
Us! (These are actual questions we
& A's about the Farm
you let the public visit?
Yes, we welcome visitors, but please
schedule an appointment with us first.
We do not accept visitors on Sunday.
Most guests visit for about an hour.
Because of Equine Liability laws, we are
unable to allow our guests to ride these
Breeds do you have on the farm? We
specialize in Gypsy Vanners as well as
the Drum Horse.
you Train or Board horses? Yes,
all breeds and ponies, are accepted. Please
visit our Service's
Page for details.
& A's about the Breeds, Gypsy Vanner
and Drum Horses
there US registries for these horses?
Yes! There are three. We
register our horses with two. The Gypsy
Vanner Horse Society (GVHS) and most of
our foundation horses are also registered
with the Gypsy Cob and Drum Horse Association
(GCDHA). All three associations have a
different set of registration guidelines
and Breed Standards. However all of our
"Gypsy Horses" are registered
with both registries. It is essentially
the same breed of horse.
Drum Horse, however is not a "Big
Gypsy Cob" (and they are not called
"The Gypsy Drum"), rather a
cross breed that is being developed into
a type, to create a Breed. We register
our Drum Horses with the American Drum
Horse Association (ADHA).
the Gypsy Horse, just a "Heinz 57"?
Quite the contrary!! This
breed is and has been established in the
UK and surrounding areas, for decades.
The only way to get a Gypsy Horse is to
breed a Gypsy Horse to a Gypsy Horse.
They may be a "new breed" to
us, but across the pond, they are well
established by select breeders.
Gypsy Horse is called a Trade Horse overseas,
why "? There are a
large number of "Gypsy Horses"
in the UK and surrounding areas that are
heavily bred without thought for the trade
market and may be sold to unwilling buyers
for only a few thousand dollars. HOWEVER,
these are not the same quality horse as
listed on our site. There are a very limited
number of breeders overseas who actually
"breed" well bred Gypsy Horses.
These breeders keep their stock well guarded
and actually sell only to "qualified"
buyers most of the time. These horses
will bring tens of thousands of dollars,
hence their high prices here in the states.
is the difference in "Irish"
and "English" bred horses?
In our opinion, not much! We have horses
bred from both countries, and really see
no difference. There are varying degrees
of quality, but that can be found in both
countries, not to mention, every breed
are the average Gypsy and Drum Horse prices?
depends a lot on what you are looking
for. Gypsy Horse (weanlings) start at
$15,000.00 and go up depending on quality,
age and training. Drum Horses start at
$10,000.00. Most price breaks are given
when the horse is purchased inutero, before
it is weaned or as an Embryo Transfer.
If you are looking for an older horse,
especially a mare bred or of breeding
age, look to spend more. Any lower, you
should do some more research on that particular
horse! See our Services
Page for more details. See our Sales
Page for current horses for sale.
If you do not see something that interests
you, we may have a horse that is available
but not publicly advertised. We may also
be able to refer you to a breeder that
the Gypsy Horse more maintenance?
If you want to keep the Gypsy Horse's
heavy leg feather and long manes and tails
looking their best, yes there is a higher
level of maintenance. Care should be
taken when turning the horse out in wet
weather. The feather should be kept conditioned with a
commercial hair product. Manes and tails
may need braided up to keep them from
dragging the ground or the horse from
chewing on them as they eat. If you choose
this route, extra care has to be taken
for fly protection. For more details on
caring for these horses, please contact
can a Gypsy Horse do? In
short, just about everything. A lot of
these horses are used for pleasure, Jumping,
Western and of course Driving! A few have
even tried their hand at team-penning
have a non-feathered breed. Can I breed
to a Gypsy Horse for feathered offspring?
No. Your resulting offspring,
may have more hair in that area, but not
heavy enough to be considered feathered.
& A's about our Stallions
breeds do you accept for your stallions?
Mostly we only breed Gypsy Vanners,
Gypsy Cobs and Drum Horses. If you are looking
to breed Drum Horses, we can cross with
Gypsy Horses, Clydesdales and Shires.
On occasion we will offer to crossbreed,
however the breed must be of Sport Horse
type. We also require a cross-breeding
agreement to be signed and it does become
part of the breeding contract. For more
information on breeding visit our Sales
Page. Visit our Stallions
Page, it is updated regularly! **The
stallions Slainte, Cobalt and Chew Mill Guinness are
standing to the public, Foals
from Slainte,Cobalt and Chew Mill Guinness will
be available yearly. Please check our
Gypsy and Drum Horses
for Sale or email us!
you offer Press Releases for your Stallions?
Yes! If you would like more information,
please email or call us, we'll send you
a free stallion packet.
your stallions Homozygous? No.
Color should not come into play when determining
the value of ANY horse. Colors tend to
be a fad. Our stallions do produce a high
percentage of colored foals however. Cobalt
is homozygous for the color Black.
do you not offer your stallions to Cross
breed? For several reasons!
First, this breed is very new in this
country. A lot of "wannabe"
breeders are crossing these horses to
other breeds, and getting offspring that
look similar to the Gypsy Horse and then
try to pass them off as the real deal.
As a dedicated breeder of these horses,
it is our job to ensure that this does
not happen. We have to protect our client's
investment. Second, our stallions are
graded partially on what offspring they
produce. You just can't compare a cross
to the real thing!
do you determine your stallion's Stud
fee? Our stallion's stud
fees are approximately 10% of what the
"average" foal's worth will
does Shipped Semen Work? Do you offer
Frozen Semen? See our Breeding
Info Page for more information on
Shipped Semen and our Facility's polices.
At this time we do not offer Frozen Semen.
Old Mill Farm? We have comibined...30+
years of experience in the Equine Industry.
We don't mean we have "just"
owned horses. We have actually owned,
shown, bred, trained, taught lessons,
etc... We are not new to horses in general
and have been involved in these particular
breeds since 2001.
horses chosen for breeding, are researched
prior to purchasing, we don't just purchase
any horse that is "breed-able",
we get the best available. Our breeding
stock horses are not available for purchase
for any amount of money...they stay with
us for life! We don't mass import, nor
do we use Embryo Transfer to mass produce,
our foals are unique.